[OT] Don't use google groups?

[Michael Diamond]

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Benjamin Fritz <fritzophrenic at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks! I'm curious about the "google groups breaks the [list] rules"
> statement. I don't see any of the 8 listed rules that it necessarily
> breaks. Maybe this is referring to:
>
> 2. Please don't drop cc:s from replies or bcc: the list
> (By default in the past the CCs got dropped by default, but you could
> add them back; I think the new interface keeps them by default)
>
> 7. Please don't top post - put your reply underneath the message you
> are replying to.
> (By default the google groups interface places the cursor above the
> message, but this is easy to work around and no different than many
> email clients).
>
> Don't get me wrong, I will start replying via email! If the lack of
> the real mailing list address in the message headers wasn't enough to
> convince me, the direct request from Matt certainly is. I'm curious
> though which list rules google groups breaks.
>
> In the past, I've used google groups because I get digest emails, and
> didn't want to mess up message threading in other people's email
> clients by replying to the digest and editing the subject rather than
> replying to the message itself. I went to google groups in an effort
> to better maintain message threading. I don't want to receive all
> emails from the list; is there a better way to maintain an unbroken
> thread?
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To your original question, it's also a matter of minimizing support paths;
*the* mercurial mailing list is mercurial at selenic.com, and while it's fine
and dandy if there's a google group mirroring everything, when *it's*
treated as the support source, it makes everyone else's job (mildly) more
complex.  I for one filter all mail to the mercurial mailing list into a
"Mercurial" label in gmail, and emails sent to the google groups list don't
get caught.  Obviously I could fix that, but google groups isn't the only
culprit, and I'm not going to bother figuring out which email addresses
*might* send mercurial emails.

To your reply-to-digest emails question, I might suggest continuing to
subscribe to the google groups digest, but *also* subscribing to the
mailing list proper, and then just marking all emails from mercurial as
read, and file them away.  That way you have them locally if you need them,
but they don't flood your inbox.  Personally, I don't find this mailing
list too noisy, but gmail, and presumably other mail clients, has a Mute
function, which doesn't bring email threads back to your inbox when new
replies come in, which is useful when there is a big discussion going on
that I don't care about.

Michael
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