Mercurial popularity is stagnant

[cowwoc]

On 19/08/2014 12:10 PM, Simon King wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, till plewe <till.plewe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:16 AM, cowwoc <cowwoc at bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
>>> Till,
>>>
>>> There is a price to pay for a stagnant popularity. The specific example I
>>> brought up is the lack of a good Mercurial repository management platforms
>>> (self-hosted, cloud-hosted, social networking, etc).
>> OK. I may seem to be a bit dense, but for me one of the points of DVCS
>> is that I do not need a "repository management platform".
>> Cloning/downloading archived versions for using projects and push/pull
>> permissions for development is all what should be needed. Beyond that
>> you can (and I believe should) use local tools.
>>
>>> Take a look at http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/q/3506 versus
>>> http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/q/867
>>>
>>> The available options for Mercurial are substantially worse than for Git.
>>> Whether you're an enterprise customer or an OSS developer, the existing
>>> solutions are quite poor.
>> Let me try again. What functionality is needed beyond what is provided
>> by hgweb, or a simple unix account to which the developers have access
>> via ssh?
>>
>> - Till
>>
>> PS. I am not trying to be facetious I simply have never encountered a
>> situation where using such a platform would be useful or even
>> advisable.
> I'm the main mercurial advocate where I work, and we've been using it
> happily for a couple of years now, using a home-grown server
> application for repository management, code reviews and so on. But
> unfortunately we're now switching to git mostly because of Atlassian
> Stash - the code review tools and integration with bug tracking (Jira)
> are simply better than the other options we looked at. If Stash
> supported mercurial I don't think we'd be switching.
>
> Simon

Simon nailed it. We seem to be back to the stereotypical Unix vs Windows 
personalities, with all that entails.

In the enterprise space, we expect polished products with process-wide 
integration. Git has that. Mercurial does not.

hgweb is a perfect example of a tool that works well for the Unix 
personality but falls short in the enterprise space. Github shows that 
if you address the enterprise space, the Unix personality will happily 
use it as well (so it's not wasted effort).

Gili